Comments on: How to Turn the Traction Control (Really) Off http://www.genesisdriven.com/posts/2009/03/12418-how-to-turn-the-traction-control-really-off.html A Hyundai Genesis Coupe enthusiast community Mon, 05 Jul 2010 15:17:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: antonino lombardo http://www.genesisdriven.com/posts/2009/03/12418-how-to-turn-the-traction-control-really-off.html/comment-page-1#comment-308 antonino lombardo Sun, 16 May 2010 20:43:18 +0000 http://www.genesisdriven.com/?p=418#comment-308 hi i own a 3.8ltr v6 genesis coupe auto , i have tried what you said to remove the traction control, and it still cuts in, can i remove it complete by the computer ,and the rev limiter,and the esp thanx , i want to drift it and do burnout ,with out the car cutting out, hi i own a 3.8ltr v6 genesis coupe auto , i have tried what you said to remove the traction control, and it still cuts in, can i remove it complete by the computer ,and the rev limiter,and the esp thanx , i want to drift it and do burnout ,with out the car cutting out,

]]> By: Loren http://www.genesisdriven.com/posts/2009/03/12418-how-to-turn-the-traction-control-really-off.html/comment-page-1#comment-25 Loren Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:16:01 +0000 http://www.genesisdriven.com/?p=418#comment-25 Edmunds Inside Line didn't state the traction control was ECU drivetrain protection "feature." There isn't any mention of traction control there. Please read more carefully. Full Test: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=142686 Comparison Test with Infiniti G37: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826 From Inside Line's Full Test: But Hyundai Doesn't Quite Trust Us At our test track, the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track hits 60 mph in 6.4 seconds (or 6.1 seconds with 1 foot of rollout as on a drag strip) and goes through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 97.9 mph. Those numbers are fine, but short of Hyundai's "under 6 seconds" 0-60 claim and suspiciously pokey for a car with more than 300 hp. The overweight G37 is over half a second quicker through the quarter-mile at 13.8 seconds at 102 mph, even with 330 hp at its command. Also consider that the 128i, which is 300 pounds lighter than the Genesis but down 76 hp, easily keeps up, recording a 14.3-second quarter-mile at 96.5 mph. It's impossible to say exactly why the Genesis coupe isn't putting up better numbers. But we do know that there's a torque-reduction feature on this car that would suck some of the fun out of Conrod Straight. Accelerate hard in 1st gear and then do a hard upshift to 2nd at or just before the marked 6,500-rpm redline. You'll get your upshift, but as the revs drop back, you'll feel an additional, artificial cut in power. It lasts for about 3 seconds. Hyundai says this is a drivetrain protection measure that's triggered at 6,800 rpm (the engine's true redline). However, the car's tachometer lags behind actual engine rpm, so it takes trial and error to find a shift point that keeps you out of the protection zone. Oddly enough, you don't get any intervention until you actually complete your upshift — you can ride the engine to the rev limiter with impunity. "There's some talk about minimizing the delay, so that it's maybe just a second, but nothing has been signed off," Miles Johnson, Hyundai communications manager, tells us. "The car is going to market with the 3-second calibration." Even a 1-second delay compromises acceleration, though. Moreover, the automatic torque reduction makes it difficult to get a smooth gearchange at even two-thirds throttle, as it exacerbates the drivetrain lash already present due to the Genesis coupe's soft engine mounts. Edmunds Inside Line didn’t state the traction control was ECU drivetrain protection “feature.” There isn’t any mention of traction control there. Please read more carefully.

Full Test: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=142686

Comparison Test with Infiniti G37: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=142826

From Inside Line’s Full Test:

But Hyundai Doesn’t Quite Trust Us
At our test track, the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track hits 60 mph in 6.4 seconds (or 6.1 seconds with 1 foot of rollout as on a drag strip) and goes through the quarter-mile in 14.5 seconds at 97.9 mph.

Those numbers are fine, but short of Hyundai’s “under 6 seconds” 0-60 claim and suspiciously pokey for a car with more than 300 hp. The overweight G37 is over half a second quicker through the quarter-mile at 13.8 seconds at 102 mph, even with 330 hp at its command. Also consider that the 128i, which is 300 pounds lighter than the Genesis but down 76 hp, easily keeps up, recording a 14.3-second quarter-mile at 96.5 mph.

It’s impossible to say exactly why the Genesis coupe isn’t putting up better numbers. But we do know that there’s a torque-reduction feature on this car that would suck some of the fun out of Conrod Straight. Accelerate hard in 1st gear and then do a hard upshift to 2nd at or just before the marked 6,500-rpm redline. You’ll get your upshift, but as the revs drop back, you’ll feel an additional, artificial cut in power. It lasts for about 3 seconds.

Hyundai says this is a drivetrain protection measure that’s triggered at 6,800 rpm (the engine’s true redline). However, the car’s tachometer lags behind actual engine rpm, so it takes trial and error to find a shift point that keeps you out of the protection zone. Oddly enough, you don’t get any intervention until you actually complete your upshift — you can ride the engine to the rev limiter with impunity.

“There’s some talk about minimizing the delay, so that it’s maybe just a second, but nothing has been signed off,” Miles Johnson, Hyundai communications manager, tells us. “The car is going to market with the 3-second calibration.”

Even a 1-second delay compromises acceleration, though. Moreover, the automatic torque reduction makes it difficult to get a smooth gearchange at even two-thirds throttle, as it exacerbates the drivetrain lash already present due to the Genesis coupe’s soft engine mounts.

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